mirrorbird (00:08:56)
of local beliefs and Islamic doctrine.

Oldchap (00:08:54)
gotcha

mirrorbird (00:08:51)
what does modern Wiktionary say? Noun: Izedi (plural Izedis) -- Alternative form of Yazidi => member of a Kurdish-speaking people of northern Iraq, Armenia and Caucasus, whose religion is Yazidism => The religion of Yazidis, a highly syncretic complex

Oldchap (00:08:41)
And the rebellion began as pride. So the first sin was not Adam and Eve eating the fruit in the garden; the first sin was the hubris of Lucifer, which transformed him into Satan.

mirrorbird (00:08:40)
"IZEDI, noun. One of an Oriental religious sect which worships Satan or the Devil." -- i can't place it, i suspect it may have been Webster, but i only "studied" 1913 version and some were no doubt borrowed from earlier one (late 1800s).

Oldchap (00:08:03)
The idea was that Lucifer was the chief angel (goes by other names in those books--"Lucifer" is a bad Latin translation of a verse in Isaiah that mentions the "light bringer"), but this chief angel fell after rebelling against God

Oldchap (00:07:14)
Orthodox church does have them in its canon)

Oldchap (00:07:04)
Well the fall of Satan isn't actually a story anywhere in the Bible; it begins in extra-scriptural works like the Book of Enoch and the Book of Jubilees, which were never canonized into the Bibles of Catholics, Orthodox, or Protestants (the Ethiopian

mirrorbird (00:06:05)
--fallen-ness if you can be bothered. i suppose a lot of religious stories work l ike this, because you need a goodie and a baddie.

mirrorbird (00:05:44)
presumably there wasn't a christian --- hmnmm -- damn if i know. maybe the CRUSADES. i was just thinking "there wasn't a pure outside christianity coming into the islands like the pacific" -- i'm very ignorant. -- explain to me super quick re the Lucifer -

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