Nectarine

I am sorry, but none of this is any good: Space (Christian Fladung)

Why do uploads by an artist with such consistently low ratings get approved?

This artist seems to be affiliated with Nectarine, so staff probably approved the tunes on that basis, years ago. Any recent uploads were probably approved reflexively because the artist already had a lot of tunes in the database. It's a slippery slope. Did you know that, the last time some Cyborg Jeff tunes were uploaded, we were under fire for approving them, because "we already have so many of CJ tunes here, why do we need more?!" and we were also under fire for NOT approving them, because "we already have so many of his tunes, so why can't we have more?!" (In the end, we did not approve them.)

What would you like done here? Reject all? Reject some? Leave it active? I'm sure I will get a nasty comment or PM from someone, in any case.

I personally would do this, but it is not my decision:
1. Set everything below a 2.5 rating to Inactive. These tunes were played, people heard them and rated them as not particularly enjoyable.
2. Check new uploads by the same artist a bit more closely before approval. Reject if necessary.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't self-uploads automatically approved?

No, I believe they go into the same approval queue as everyone else's songs.

Not a bad idea, though I'd personally go for less than 2.0, as upwards of 2.0 tends to indicate that at least some people liked it. On the other hand, there are a lot of these. I did not realise how many tunes Space had on here until you pointed this out.



Unfortunately this is not really possible. Sure, we listen to the tunes before approving, but how is a staff member meant to accept or reject on subjective qualities? Mostly we pre-listen to the tracks to ensure they're not glitchy, trollish, don't have leading or trailing silence, and aren't totally unacceptable from an audio waveform standpoint. If there's scene-relevance, and the audio is not "buggy", we generally accept the tune and then let the votes decide.

I know I keep saying this, but a new locking algorithm is being put in very soon (hopefully, like, tomorrow) which will increase the lock time for poorly-rated tunes, and that may help with some of the problem with crummy-yet-scene-related tunes.

Also, thank you very much, Accidental, for opening a forum post about this and getting a discussion going.

Setting all Space tunes with a rating of less than 2.0 to Inactive would also be fine for me. Increased lock times for poorly rated tunes sounds swell.

Not looking forward to having to listen to more 1.x quality uploads by Space though. But I guess that can't be helped.

Feel free to remove my comments on #KimDotCom - Dance Hall Edition. I was so sick and tired of having to listen to his tunes for years, while at the same time he keeps uploading "remixes" of the same tunes... I just got so frustrated.

Again, I do think self-uploads are automatically approved. I'm pretty sure I've seen that happen.

I think we just witnessed another auto-approve, as KangarooMusique uploaded 3 of his own tunes, of which two have the exact same name. All three were approved right away. I can't imagine any staff would do that so quickly, and without figuring out why the names were the same.

There were also some previously unused and/or misspelled tags in these uploads. I've cleaned that up in one or two instances.