Nectarine
Infamous OneLiner
zoi
(08:47:44)
the sailfish guys had a good time with android apps, but I doubt the critical banking apps and such work any more
zoi
(08:47:01)
too much of a chicken and egg problem with the huge ecosystem around the big two today
zoi
(08:46:44)
samsung and Microsoft tried to break in with their platforms, but if they fail, who stands a chance
zoi
(08:46:04)
android apps can be emulated well enough with waydroid, but all the good apps use googles securitynet and refuse
zoi
(08:45:21)
https://halium.org they call it
zoi
(08:45:11)
I think all other phones use old vendor android kernels. fairphone might be another exception.
Agemixer
(08:26:05)
or we should have a yet another competitive one brand. Just my strong IMO
Agemixer
(08:25:23)
first it comes a new tech and its wild west, the laws come after (what the tech producers can do) and then it is too late already. The hardware producers should bring back the openness
Agemixer
(08:21:13)
i dare to say this, this is super political: Damn big G! 
Agemixer
(08:19:49)
at least that's how it is on PC. butbut. Yeah i'd rather have as native linux + android with a 100% phone support, if that was just possible.
