arrakis (09:24:59)
utopic

arrakis (09:24:04)
zoi yhe

zoi (08:48:33)
at least in Sweden it's hard to get by without BankID. authorities and insurance company etc. require that you identify yourself with it when calling them.

zoi (08:47:44)
the sailfish guys had a good time with android apps, but I doubt the critical banking apps and such work any more

zoi (08:47:01)
too much of a chicken and egg problem with the huge ecosystem around the big two today

zoi (08:46:44)
samsung and Microsoft tried to break in with their platforms, but if they fail, who stands a chance

zoi (08:46:04)
android apps can be emulated well enough with waydroid, but all the good apps use googles securitynet and refuse

zoi (08:45:21)
https://halium.org they call it

zoi (08:45:11)
I think all other phones use old vendor android kernels. fairphone might be another exception.

Agemixer (08:26:05)
or we should have a yet another competitive one brand. Just my strong IMO

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