noodi10 (17:54:35)
correct! racism, sexism, you name it, putting barriers for working class people to vote or people without IDs or whatnot

noodi10 (17:53:51)
so the first ever election i have ever been able to vote for in my life was last year in the US, what a strange time to vote when you feel like it doesn't even matter, but naturally i didn't vote for either kamala or trump because ew

Oldchap (17:53:48)
*now

Oldchap (17:53:46)
those periods. So we've improved by certain metrics, and at the same time, we've completely discarded other basic rights. I think the concept of technofeudalism is pretty descriptive of where we're at nwo.

Oldchap (17:52:52)
Democracy has always been relative; there's never been a perfect one and that's pretty much by definition considering human nature. Even in the eras when the U.S. was "more democratic," but there was more racism and other contravention of basic rights in >

noodi10 (17:52:47)
yeah it's funny, you know when we had the first ever ACTUALY democratic election in Egypt in 2012, I was too young to vote

noodi10 (17:52:07)
no i don't think so, and nobody is safe from this reality at the moment. people may feel protected by their citizenship, their ethnicity, but that hasn't stopped awful things happening to them lately

Oldchap (17:51:17)
Yeah, that's why I will never vote Democrat again in my life, despite being on the left. They've destroyed all credibility and they have no moral standing left.

noodi10 (17:50:28)
like...you guys are actually supporting war crimes because youre getting a pretty penny, do you hear yourselves (e.g. cory booker)

Oldchap (17:50:02)
We're on the cusp of such total technological transformation of human reality that I don't think anyone can envision what's coming. Perhaps everything we're discussing will shortly become irrelevant.

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