Oldchap (17:53:46)
those periods. So we've improved by certain metrics, and at the same time, we've completely discarded other basic rights. I think the concept of technofeudalism is pretty descriptive of where we're at nwo.

Oldchap (17:52:52)
Democracy has always been relative; there's never been a perfect one and that's pretty much by definition considering human nature. Even in the eras when the U.S. was "more democratic," but there was more racism and other contravention of basic rights in >

noodi10 (17:52:47)
yeah it's funny, you know when we had the first ever ACTUALY democratic election in Egypt in 2012, I was too young to vote

noodi10 (17:52:07)
no i don't think so, and nobody is safe from this reality at the moment. people may feel protected by their citizenship, their ethnicity, but that hasn't stopped awful things happening to them lately

Oldchap (17:51:17)
Yeah, that's why I will never vote Democrat again in my life, despite being on the left. They've destroyed all credibility and they have no moral standing left.

noodi10 (17:50:28)
like...you guys are actually supporting war crimes because youre getting a pretty penny, do you hear yourselves (e.g. cory booker)

Oldchap (17:50:02)
We're on the cusp of such total technological transformation of human reality that I don't think anyone can envision what's coming. Perhaps everything we're discussing will shortly become irrelevant.

noodi10 (17:49:53)
its absolutely a farce to call the US a democracy anymore, i'm not really sure how PACs are even allowed at all! but whats even more funny is when they question when Trump got a free plane from qatar or whatever (i hate the guy, dont get me wrong, but lol)

Oldchap (17:48:50)
Absolutely

noodi10 (17:48:30)
yup, basically every single politician is paid to support a foreign entity and nobody bats an eye. its disgusting man

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