Oldchap (21:45:50)
Stinsen: Well, if you're placing blame for this conflict with NATO (and mostly the U.S.), then you and I are on the same page.

serpent (21:45:12)
and yes, what Oldchap saud

Stinsen (21:45:07)
Oldchap: Ofc I'm not blaming you personally. But it is one hell of a mess you put us in.

Oldchap (21:45:06)
Most preventable conflict in history.

serpent (21:44:45)
yes, it began, well, before really, but in 2014

Oldchap (21:44:00)
And my government bears tremendous blame for the emergence of the whole mess to begin with.

serpent (21:43:42)
if getting to the dollar

serpent (21:43:08)
for ukr-rus thing, yes, Oldchap is paying, europeans are loaning

Oldchap (21:42:07)
I'm paying for the issue at hand, so yeah, my take is also relevant.

serpent (21:41:49)
and demos etc

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