zoi (08:48:33)
at least in Sweden it's hard to get by without BankID. authorities and insurance company etc. require that you identify yourself with it when calling them.

zoi (08:47:44)
the sailfish guys had a good time with android apps, but I doubt the critical banking apps and such work any more

zoi (08:47:01)
too much of a chicken and egg problem with the huge ecosystem around the big two today

zoi (08:46:44)
samsung and Microsoft tried to break in with their platforms, but if they fail, who stands a chance

zoi (08:46:04)
android apps can be emulated well enough with waydroid, but all the good apps use googles securitynet and refuse

zoi (08:45:21)
https://halium.org they call it

zoi (08:45:11)
I think all other phones use old vendor android kernels. fairphone might be another exception.

Agemixer (08:26:05)
or we should have a yet another competitive one brand. Just my strong IMO

Agemixer (08:25:23)
first it comes a new tech and its wild west, the laws come after (what the tech producers can do) and then it is too late already. The hardware producers should bring back the openness

Agemixer (08:21:13)
i dare to say this, this is super political: Damn big G!

Cirdan (Lauri Turjansalo)

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